Draft Notes from NYC Parks Scoping Meeting -Grand St to Delancey South Upgrades

We are grateful for the funding that is coming to Sara Roosevelt Park from these sources!

$15 Million from Soho Noho Rezoning CM Chin (and our advocacy – tooting our own horn!)

$10 million Correction: $1,785,000 from Mayor 2nd quarter 2023, $3.5 DRI including Grand to Broome – Governor Hochul (and The Alliance advocacy).

Thank you Commissioner Perez and NYC Parks Department for getting us in motion to see infrastructure long needed here. Thank you COS Steve Simon for conducting the meeting with patience and verve. Thank you to all Parks staff who helped.

Draft Notes (not confirmed/not vetted/not comprehensive!) Corrections welcomed! updated July 16, 2023

There was a great deal of agreement on the issues of importance:

Safety  see below

More Green space see below

Accessibility –  pathways must be redone. Entryways must be rebuilt and made ADA accessible.

Water source – or we won’t be able to maintain any greenspaces!!

More activation more below

Garbage/Rats In progress, Garbage cans on Delancey would help with rats – Jamil can’t make that happen. Ask electeds to help or BIDs? Find out who has been tipping over the needle boxes (Mike from 5th precinct youth officer keeps having to stand them up).

Fight for NYC Parks funding – outside funding doesn’t come with funds for our union workers or the temps. (see below)

Misc: permit issues in turf fields, specific use PEP presence, specific use of police presence, questions on ‘legacy’ of this park (whose legacy?), dog runs.

 

Lions Gate

Proposals to shrink it to:

Make a large garden space.

Build small seating garden area.

With badminton/volleyball area with priority to local schools (girls have asked for a space for years)

Take down its fences

Dog run

Complaints that our astroturf fields are taken over by out-of-area sports teams – leaving local Public schools to use concrete spaces.

Remove fencing around it – almost everyone agreed it would be more welcoming. Now it feels less safe, being ‘trapped’.

 

Plethora of Ideas

Many different ideas, real constraints given funding (and Parks maintenance budgets – staffing).

Too expensive to move Pit (and many in the neighborhood and grandfathered users do not want it buried or moved).

The retaining walls and south end entryway – big issues with engineering re ground underneath and getting better visibility from the street – expensive.

 

Safety

The uptick in random violence all over NYC (frightening – isn’t predictable it and can’t be ‘prevented’ or even mitigated in the usual ways. Post pandemic/Trump/fentanyl-K2 – whatever the causes.

The ‘cures’ to violence available we believe are:

-lighting (downward facing)

-activate the area

– kiosk with seating in Broome street run by/ shared by local small businesses. BIDs help? Dumplings? Maybe Ceci -Cela would help (though they had to close nearby – rent hikes) with cafe tables and chairs (maybe stored in Broome parkhouse?)

share space in Broome parkhouse with some local organization that could have an ongoing outside presence/activity at Broome.

– PEP presence (Sundays 9am -11am at Hua Mei bird area).

– Police on foot crossing through the park at random times.

– (fyi PEP at Rivington pass-way too)

 

Green space:

Water Sources Bruckner Boxes in this section!!

– Enlarge the side ‘garden’ plots, with walkways wide enough to be ADA accessible (future uneven ‘sinking’ -due to the uneven surface the entire park rests on- would matter a bit less if it occurred inside gardens).

– side plots need to be green, low plantings, easily maintained and any bushes/trees spaced out for visibility by law enforcement, Dogwoods or more drought tolerant Red Buds.

– remove the low brick walls. Nothing good happens there: trash collected behind them, misuse.

– The Hua Mei bird gardeners expressed not wanting their space to be ‘bigger’.  Instead, they asked for red Hibiscus. We bought one to confirm they can remain outdoors during the colder months. They tends it with great care. Buy more of those? RED. Lucky color.

Commissioner Perez already immediately acted to remove dangerous trapping and derelict looking fencing asap. It has already made a difference. Repair all the Hua Mei fencing (but  a bit higher on the sides and back – just NOT where the birders lean over the low fence to see their birds hanging in the cages.

Hua Mei in need serious rat mitigation – Jamil knows and is on it (the whole area does due to trash from Delancey).

GET Sanitation to install TRASH CANS on Delancey!!

The three front facing plots don’t need enlarging: de Britto, Ribbon (Lanape) middle plot (TBD)

– to keep them unique we need our local gardeners to continue to tend them (or future locals who would like to) organizations now helping SRPCC, Tenement Museum staffer, Youth Explorers 5th Pct,, MKG Head Gardener Ftizgerald, local residents, Citizens for NYC.

All four of these plots are connected to ‘legacies’ of this park: Black people (de Britto underway and funded, Middle plot TBD?, ‘Ribbon plot’ becoming Lanape (underway), Chinese legacy (Hua Mei exists).

-Right now these areas are activated mostly by the crews we bring in to help (Tenement Museum will do tours once garden de Britto is completed).  The Hua Mei birder volunteers, and the 5th Pct Youth Explorers. It is safer whenever they are here.

Whatever plantings recommended by the architects crew – please have a ‘courtesy talk/walk- through’ with our 40 year gardener in this park Kate Fitzgerald. She knows what can survive here.

Dog runs.

dog runs can’t be anywhere near the Hua Mei area – dogs barking scares the birds (we’ve been through this).

– but dog runs could help activate the area! Probably only a ‘small dog’ dog run could fit in this section.

– perhaps shrink the soccer field and put a ‘small/medium sized dog’ dog run at the entrance? feasible?

 

Entryways

South end Grand. Make this an area with a beautiful open entryway that opens up the area with a focus on visibility and accessibility and safety – use most of the DRI funds for this area. Honor a local Chinatown resident?

North end (south Delancey): focus on accessibility for the two open entryways. Leave the gardens – they are interesting and complex and tended for almost 40 years – the community has a stake in these places. Formerly a GreenThumb Garden area.

 

Safety in all sunken Park Areas

The Hester to Grand is almost all sunken but far more activated due to the schools, the elders, and the safety that the beehive of activity of park workers around the Hester Parkhouse creates. Still there have been issues all over the park but especially where there is no activity.

In-park local access for those without zoom/email/etc. Without it…less truly democratic.

If a viewing could happen at the CB3 Parks Committee meeting in the BRC – it would help (we’ll still try for at least one more language accessible in-park survey at Broome Street). It would mean, though, that there would be time to take those ideas into account for real.

Fight for Public Park Funding

If you want this and all our parks well cared for…fight for Parks Funding. Join the PlayFair Coalition, https://www.ny4p.org/what-we-do/play-fair

Write the Mayor and our Council Member Christopher Marte!

65 East Broadway
New York, NY 10002
Phone: 212-587-3159
Fax: 212-587-3138
Office Hours: 10:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m.

Sign the petition for 1% funding for Parks https://secure.ny4p.org/a/1-percent-for-parks-petition

 

Below: NYC Parks Scoping meeting for Sara Roosevelt Park from Grand to South Delancey Wednesday June 21, 2023 , SRPCC Draft Proposals for that section

 

The Invite and Our Draft Proposals:

NYC Parks Scoping meeting for SRP: Grand to South Delancey

We are thrilled to have resources coming – and thank Manhattan Commissioner Perez for moving this forward.

Attached is the invite. Below are thoughts to bear in mind along with SRPCC Draft Proposals:
– Sara Roosevelt Park Community Coalition.

To begin:

Zoom meetings will preclude many neighbors that do not use zoom or email, any who are not fluent in English, or who need sign language, or those whose lives don’t lend themselves to evening weekday meetings.

Therefore, please help us reach out to neighbors, listen to them and be mindful of the outsized voices of those of us with the means, language access, time, and who are not directly impacted, etc.

We’ve listened to nearby residents, local organizations, gardeners, businesses, and sports users, we’ve sent out updates, used social media, and conducted one in-park tabling to collect ideas and to create awareness (not nearly enough). If you wish to assist that effort, let us know.

We are talking to various elected representatives who may be able to offer language access help and information inside the park for nearby tenants to avoid the displacement that comes with ‘improved’ parks. Stay tuned.

We hope for ideas that create safety, beauty, preserve this parks traditional neighborhood uses, maintain our unique strengths and our diversity, share space with new needs of our neighborhoods and the public, retain our commitment to the care of this park and our support of the Parks Department.

This park is our backyard, get-away vacation spot, and air-conditioning with a welcome to all.

 

We aim for upgrading for improved use and safety that does not encourage further displacement of low-income communities and/or communities of color here via gentrification!

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Draft proposals for Sara Roosevelt Park from Grand to South Delancey.

Our proposals are always draft – as we listen, we get smarter.

 

-After a number of consultations with the Hua Mei birders over the years: New wrought iron fence around the bird sanctuary 5-7’ tall -north end for safety, 4’ for south section with gate so there are two means of egress in an emergency. Consult birders for any changes.

-PEP officer stationed at Hua Mei Bird area Sundays 9-ll am.

-Retain The Pit area. Fix the drainage in southern end.

-Grand St. entryway. Remove brick walls entirely along Grand Str for maximum visibility from the street ( a beautiful, inviting archway?).

-South Delancey entryway remove broken steps, create two wide ADA accessible pathways.

-Retain all four community stewarded garden plots (de Britto, Hua Mei, Ribbon, middle plot).

-Pipe a water source for the gardens here –Bruckner boxes and a water fountain.

-Restore wooden “gates” recreated by the Tenement Museum staff of the original Forysth Garden Group.

-Remove low brick walls that front the two side plots – misused.

-Widen the side ‘strips’ of green areas all along Chrystie and Forsyth as much as possible taking into account plantings that can be pruned to ensure visibility (with seating?)

-Attach round tables in the open walk-way areas in south Delancey area. Visible from street to provide seating that is visible from the street to discourage misuse.

-Redo all pathways from Delancey to Grand for ADA accessibility.

-New, brighter lighting, downward facing in the area (more effective for safety – better for birds).

-Fix the benches along the Pit.

-Do the work in sections as much as possible so sections of the park can remain open.

-Share the Broome Parkhouse with a local community organization or return it for full community activation.

 

 

Additional thoughts:

 

-In this area of SRP ‘The Pit’ is one of the only active, versatile, and well used space (by the community): The Burmese Water Festival, the New Museum, elected officials, ROAR, badminton, Tai Chi, Bike Polo, Soccer (the soccer ‘pitch’ recently painted as an East River Park mitigation), etc. As such, The Pit use makes the area safer, as does the gardening by SRPCC volunteers and the 5th Pct’s Youth Explorers. City Relief also provides safety and resources on south Delancey on Thursdays.

 

-We have a synthetic turf field in this section. We are oversaturated with synthetic turf fields (used primarily by outside groups). Issues with carcinogenic materials.

 

-A little history further south in the Park: The Sara Roosevelt Coalition – President Annie Fredericks (of Hester Street Collaborative) for Hester Street Playground.

NYTimes: Gathering Neighbors’ Dreams for a Shabby Playground 

 

“This is about community preservation in a neighborhood facing displacement,” said Anne Frederick, [the ED of Hester Street Collaborative and President of the SRPCC at that time] that works on designs for public spaces, and one of the lead organizers in yesterday’s event. She said the goal was “for people to think about the park in relation to the larger community as well.” 

-Stay tuned ROAR coming July to August 2023

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